Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

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Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

danielcampos
Hi all:

I recommend to not use Gambas-1.9.19, the IDE is absolutely broken, even using Fabien's patch. Keep Gambas-1.9.18 in safe place!

I think it is moment to stop that run to nowhere at full speed, and leave time to fix all that is done in developement version. It is full of bugs, and each time it is more difficult to collaborate in the project with that continous changes without having any tool like cvs or subversion. No way to continue improving things in that way, I can not guess every time what will be the next change that will break all! :-((


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Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

José "L. Redrejo" Rodríguez-2
The attached file has to be replaced too. It fixes a bug when clicking the btnGoto in the IDE.
Benoît has used the Scan variable in a good part of the IDE and now it has a lot of conflicts with the new scan instruction.

[hidden email] wrote :

> Hi all:
>
> I recommend to not use Gambas-1.9.19, the IDE is absolutely broken, even using
> Fabien's patch. Keep Gambas-1.9.18 in safe place!
>
> I think it is moment to stop that run to nowhere at full speed, and leave time
> to fix all that is done in developement version. It is full of bugs, and each
> time it is more difficult to collaborate in the project with that continous
> changes without having any tool like cvs or subversion. No way to continue
> improving things in that way, I can not guess every time what will be the next
> change that will break all! :-((
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel Campos
>
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Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

José "L. Redrejo" Rodríguez-2
After checking all the "Scan" appearances in the IDE, these are the four
files that have to be replaced in the gambas2 dir, instead of those
contained in the 1.9.19 sources tree.
I haven't found any bug else with these modifications.
Regards.


El vie, 02-09-2005 a las 13:53 +0000, [hidden email] escribió:

> The attached file has to be replaced too. It fixes a bug when clicking the btnGoto in the IDE.
> Benoît has used the Scan variable in a good part of the IDE and now it has a lot of conflicts with the new scan instruction.
>
> [hidden email] wrote :
>
> > Hi all:
> >
> > I recommend to not use Gambas-1.9.19, the IDE is absolutely broken, even using
> > Fabien's patch. Keep Gambas-1.9.18 in safe place!
> >
> > I think it is moment to stop that run to nowhere at full speed, and leave time
> > to fix all that is done in developement version. It is full of bugs, and each
> > time it is more difficult to collaborate in the project with that continous
> > changes without having any tool like cvs or subversion. No way to continue
> > improving things in that way, I can not guess every time what will be the next
> > change that will break all! :-((
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Daniel Campos
> >
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Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

Fabien Bodard
Yes i've forget the file that depend of my modification.. I've send  a new
gambas archive this morning but it was too big !

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Re: Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

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Hi Benoit:

Well, first of all, sorry if I was too rude, may be it was not a good day for me :-(

The main problem is that from time to time, there are changes (for example the EXEC and OPEN syntax) that seems to not have a practical sense, just may be to make it more beautiful, but breaks existing code, and also some changes related to the gb.qt component, just have broken the code I've written for gb.gtk. May be these changes should be reported while you¡re writting them, instead of waiting to release a version and just tell "surprise, I've changed that...".

I mean I'm writting the gb.gtk with many problems, as GTK+ just provides the half of help that QT provides to the programmer. May be you need 10 lines of code, but I need 100 to perform the same feature. So finding from version to version that I must change what I've done is frustating, and makes more slow not only the gb.gtk developement, but all the testing platform (for example the Debian packages) that we are trying to provide for Gambas.

May be some mails from you while writting a new version, and a little roadmad: "I'll try to do it for the next version a) b) c)"... would be enough at this moment. May be we could help you too with a CVS service...

Regards,

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Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

Benoît Minisini
On Sunday 04 September 2005 13:27, [hidden email] wrote:
> Hi Benoit:
>
> Well, first of all, sorry if I was too rude, may be it was not a good day
> for me :-(

No problem :-)

>
> The main problem is that from time to time, there are changes (for example
> the EXEC and OPEN syntax) that seems to not have a practical sense, just
> may be to make it more beautiful, but breaks existing code, and also some
> changes related to the gb.qt component, just have broken the code I've
> written for gb.gtk. May be these changes should be reported while you¡re
> writting them, instead of waiting to release a version and just tell
> "surprise, I've changed that...".

You are right - Now I will try to tell the changes I want to make long before
I do them.

>
> I mean I'm writting the gb.gtk with many problems, as GTK+ just provides
> the half of help that QT provides to the programmer.

I know that your work is harder because of that lack of help...

> May be you need 10
> lines of code, but I need 100 to perform the same feature.

Actually, I think the harder thing is making the equivalent of the follwoing
QT feature: the event filters. This is a method in a class that catch all
events sent to an object (a widget), before the widget catches it, and that
can modify them. There is a global event filter too, that catches all event
sent to an application.

But I find QT GUi library and GTK+ library converging in features. So things
may become easier with time...

> So finding from
> version to version that I must change what I've done is frustating, and
> makes more slow not only the gb.gtk developement, but all the testing
> platform (for example the Debian packages) that we are trying to provide
> for Gambas.
>
> May be some mails from you while writting a new version, and a little
> roadmad: "I'll try to do it for the next version a) b) c)"... would be
> enough at this moment. May be we could help you too with a CVS service...
>
> Regards,
>
> D. Campos
>

I try as much as possible (I don't have a great knowledge of gtk+) not using
too specific QT features. So if you find something impossible to do in GTK+,
or too complicated, tell me. Maybe I can change things in QT component.

The aim is having exact similar behaviour. I can remove features in the QT
component if needed.

Regards,

--
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Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

Christophe-4
L'email que vous venez de m'envoyer est au Format HTML, Je serais dans l'impossibilt? de le lire,
merci de configurer votre client mail afin de m'envoyer un mail au format texte pure.

Il n'y a que des avantages a envoy? des E-mails au format texte:
- Le mail est jusqu'a 40 Fois plus l?ger.
- Aucun risque de phishing (usurpation d'identit?)
- Pas de risque de code mailicieux qui s'execute a votre insu.
- Agr?able a lire :)

Merci de tenir compte de ces recommendations lors de nos prochains ?changes.

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Christophe-4
Excusé du dérangement mon procmail se mélange les pinceaux quand y'a
plusieurs mail en même temps, dont un est en HTML :(

Christophe.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 12:50:09PM +0200, Christophe wrote :

> L'email que vous venez de m'envoyer est au Format HTML, Je serais dans l'impossibilté de le lire,
> merci de configurer votre client mail afin de m'envoyer un mail au format texte pure.
>
> Il n'y a que des avantages a envoyé des E-mails au format texte:
> - Le mail est jusqu'a 40 Fois plus léger.
> - Aucun risque de phishing (usurpation d'identité)
> - Pas de risque de code mailicieux qui s'execute a votre insu.
> - Agréable a lire :)
>
> Merci de tenir compte de ces recommendations lors de nos prochains échanges.
>
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Christophe-4
L'email que vous venez de m'envoyer est au Format HTML, Je serais dans l'impossibilt? de le lire,
merci de configurer votre client mail afin de m'envoyer un mail au format texte pure.

Il n'y a que des avantages a envoy? des E-mails au format texte:
- Le mail est jusqu'a 40 Fois plus l?ger.
- Aucun risque de phishing (usurpation d'identit?)
- Pas de risque de code mailicieux qui s'execute a votre insu.
- Agr?able a lire :)

Merci de tenir compte de ces recommendations lors de nos prochains ?changes.

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Re: Re: [Gambas-user] Re: BIG BUG in gb 1.9.19

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